VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Sasanid said:
I know that most probably wasn't your intention, but I guess you woke the few of them with that post :LOL:

(even if I suppose they won't say anything)

Jill is kind and caring, but living in perfect bubble built by the people around her, who could turn rebellious if she wants to follow her sister's footsteps. Her perfect ideals decides for her, very naive, too naive. And jealous.

Maya is the traumatized children, imprisoned inside herself because of her crazy father, who's scared to be hurt but hurt others in return, yearns to be free. Pushed herself in the arms of a girl cause she's scared of men.

Josy is the carefree one riddled with undecisiveness and anxiety because she don't want to hurt anybody, hurting herself in the process. Loves the MC, but 'stays in the background', let people decide for her.

Sage, radiant queen, bubbly personality, doesn't know how to deal with her emotions, results in impulsive/explosive reactions. Oblivious to way too much things around her... but she's the only one Quinn is scared of, so there's that.

Bella... tortured soul, mysterious type, bombshell, older woman, strong morals, but mentally unstable for seemingly obvious reasons (married, cheating) and some hidden ones. Major red flags to me, but her mystery, damn...

The mystery of Bella, I understand how nobody dislikes her, everyone wants to try to solve it. And she's pretty much Neutral, so it helps. And the bubbly, easygoing Sage, seriously, how can anyone dislike her, beside the fact she has to fucking wake up about the HOTs. She's a DIK choice, but I could get a date with her as a Massive Chick, so yeah.

Maya/Josy, as long as they'll stay in this forced throuple, they'll get dislikes. When choices will be made available (solo paths, and a real throuple choice), things will change, especially for Maya, I hope, only reason she's disliked to me is because Josy is stuck with her, and vice versa. Also, while Josy really is carefree, Neutral DIK to Chick, Maya really is a Chick, doesn't help.

Jill ? I don't get the hate. But I can understand why people would dislike the trope. Very niche. Haters are vocal, fans stay quiet because they're mocked, so yeah, but there are many. Only pure chick playthrough, capricious, doesn't help.

DPC knows about the opinions on the girls, of course, Maya being the least liked (which isn't good), Jill the most polarizing (which is good), I'm sure changes are incoming.

(got a bit overboard with my comment, but was inspired this morning, so yeah)
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I agree in many points. Love how you describes the LI, their flaws too.
In my last playthrough i got to the end of chap 8 choosing between sage and jill, began the game loving maya but now i guess the best LI is sage since you can have her in any path and has some diferences in how is developed.
I also don't get the hate for Jill, I mean she's spoiled and lives in a whole different world from MC and i like to see the contrast is kinda funny.
Maya/Josy was kinda of a let down cause at least for me you usually has to choose one or another in most situations. Still love you can just lay down on the floor and they put the beds together.
But I want more Rionna T.T it's was good helping her to catch her stalker but I have my doubts if it's was only him.
 
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MatSCarlet said:
I agree in many points. Love how you describes the LI, their flaws too.
In my last playthrough i got to the end of chap 8 choosing between sage and jill, began the game loving maya but now i guess the best LI is sage since you can have her in any path and has some diferences in how is developed.
I also don't get the hate for Jill, I mean she's spoiled and lives in a whole different world from MC and i like to see the contrast is kinda funny.
Maya/Josy was kinda of a let down cause at least for me you usually has to choose one or another in most situations. Still love you can just lay down on the floor and they put the beds together.
But I want more Rionna T.T it's was good helping her to catch her stalker but I have my doubts if it's was only him.
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Really liked Maya too, up until that 'Josy is my girlfriend' scene... I don't dislike her because of her relationship, but because I'm not into that type of thing, and I just see Maya stagnate as a character, and Josy more happy with the MC than with Maya.

And was just talking about the MG, but yeah, I hope Riona, Nicole, Lily, and especially (for me) Quinn, get more content. Like many others, have a feeling Bianca might be a possibility in the future, too. And I hope Mona comes back, could be interesting with Camila.

But then, we 'made a choice'... even if I think this choice will go down the drain pretty fast.
 
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Sasanid said:
Jill ? I don't get the hate.
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From what i've seen around here it seems to be mainly about the fact she dares to shoot the MC down for what people perceive as "being nice" (staying with sick Sage). And she does it in public to boot. But this is a warped perception of what's really the reason for turning the MC down, even though Jill plainly states it herself. As well as completely overlooks it's the MC who forces the public confrontation in the first place.

tl;dr: burnt egos.
 
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Geralt_From_Rivia said:
If the conversation turned to Bella, I have a small observation. I have never seen Bella's haters in the thread. If there are a lot of haters Jill, I think she takes first place in terms of the number of negative comments. A lot of people don't like Maya. Some don't like Josy, there was very little negativity towards Sage.
But no one hates Bella. Just an observation.
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As a Bella simp I'd welcome Bella hate, it's a game ffs, talking shit is fun, especially when the waiting times between episodes are so long. But alas, so far, I guess only Jill and Maya have been deserving of 10 straight pages of shitposting in this thread :Kappa:
 
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Geralt_From_Rivia said:
If the conversation turned to Bella, I have a small observation. I have never seen Bella's haters in the thread. If there are a lot of haters Jill, I think she takes first place in terms of the number of negative comments. A lot of people don't like Maya. Some don't like Josy, there was very little negativity towards Sage.
But no one hates Bella. Just an observation.
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Bella being a more mature character (as a person as well) is one of the reasons. She doesn't drag you into pointless drama and although there are still some warnings on her path, she's still relatively drama-free. Also, ever since the beginning of the game, she always has helped the MC, no matter if she gained something by it, so that's certainly something to be admired.

Maya is an oppressed lesbian that has to hide her relationship and lie to MC about it. There's also that tuition problem, so she certainly annoys people.

Josy is relatively drama-free and she's that girl next door, but she's in a relationship with Maya and sandbagged by her issues. Still I haven't seen Josy haters truth to be told.

Jill is naive, like unrealistically naive. She lives in her own bubble and has no idea how the world works, so it annoys certain people. Also her tendency to get involved in things where she has no business is certainly even more annoying.

Sage is fiery and has anger issues, she's also sandbagged by the Chad cheating/gay storyline, so she has no idea what's going on behind her back in her own sorority. Even then I haven't seen Sage haters around here.
 
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My only complaint regarding Bella is, for supposed "ice queen" things proceed with her frickin' goddamn fast. Her relationship with MC develops way more natural if you manage to mess things up and lock yourself out of staying with her in Ch.3 (effectively putting yourself on friendship path, alas)

But i understand generally this rapid pace is going to be viewed as a good thing. /s
 
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DarkKiller said:
As a Bella simp I'd welcome Bella hate, it's a game ffs, talking shit is fun, especially when the waiting times between episodes are so long. But alas, so far, I guess only Jill and Maya have been deserving of 10 straight pages of shitposting in this thread :Kappa:
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Sometimes when Bella looks at me, I feel like she wants to eat my liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
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Sasanid said:
I know that most probably wasn't your intention, but I guess you woke the few of them with that post :LOL:

(even if I suppose they won't say anything)

Jill is kind and caring, but living in perfect bubble built by the people around her, who could turn rebellious if she wants to follow her sister's footsteps. Her perfect ideals decides for her, very naive, too naive. And jealous.

Maya is the traumatized children, imprisoned inside herself because of her crazy father, who's scared to be hurt but hurt others in return, yearns to be free. Pushed herself in the arms of a girl cause she's scared of men.

Josy is the carefree one riddled with undecisiveness and anxiety because she don't want to hurt anybody, hurting herself in the process. Loves the MC, but 'stays in the background', let people decide for her.

Sage, radiant queen, bubbly personality, doesn't know how to deal with her emotions, results in impulsive/explosive reactions. Oblivious to way too much things around her... but she's the only one Quinn is scared of, so there's that.

Bella... tortured soul, mysterious type, bombshell, older woman, strong morals, but mentally unstable for seemingly obvious reasons (married, cheating) and some hidden ones. Major red flags to me, but her mystery, damn...

The mystery of Bella, I understand how nobody dislikes her, everyone wants to try to solve it. And she's pretty much Neutral, so it helps. And the bubbly, easygoing Sage, seriously, how can anyone dislike her, beside the fact she has to fucking wake up about the HOTs. She's a DIK choice, but I could get a date with her as a Massive Chick, so yeah.

Maya/Josy, as long as they'll stay in this forced throuple, they'll get dislikes. When choices will be made available (solo paths, and a real throuple choice), things will change, especially for Maya, I hope, only reason she's disliked to me is because Josy is stuck with her, and vice versa. Also, while Josy really is carefree, Neutral DIK to Chick, Maya really is a Chick, doesn't help.

Jill ? I don't get the hate. But I can understand why people would dislike the trope. Very niche. Haters are vocal, fans stay quiet because they're mocked, so yeah, but there are many. Only pure chick playthrough, capricious, doesn't help.

DPC knows about the opinions on the girls, of course, Maya being the least liked (which isn't good), Jill the most polarizing (which is good), I'm sure changes are incoming.

(got a bit overboard with my comment, but was inspired this morning, so yeah)
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Honestly i think most Jill bashing isn't due to her flaws u listed, althought they are also part of it.
Most of what i see is cause her looks are often really weird to horrible, depending on the renders, alas the Goblin.
For whatever reason DPC just doesn't manage any continuity with her looks...

Fully agree on Sage, it's damn time she realises what's going on.

Maya, well yes biggest part for me is cause she blocks Josy, i really dislike that throuple and never was interested in Maya. But honestly i'm also fed up with her constant drama, given the choice my MC wouldn'd be friends with her...

Josy, i like her but she needs to make her own decisions and do what it's best for her, even when it hurts others, including Maya.
Her being often on the reciving end of Mayas venting and just taking it doesn't help either.

Bella, yes red flags everywhere, but she is one of the best characters.
 
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nyrek said:
I don't think there are jill "haters" per se
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Well, hate might be a strong word, but I very actively dislike the goblin, and not just because of her goblinoid features.
Lostanddamned said:
Jill is naive, like unrealistically naive. She lives in her own bubble and has no idea how the world works, so it annoys certain people. Also her tendency to get involved in things where she has no business is certainly even more annoying.
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And that covers a good part of it.

My MC tells her, repeatedly, to stay the fuck out of his biz, and she keeps sticking her nose in and making shit worse. She is exactly like a religious fundamentalist who believes she knows what's best for everyone, regardless of their wishes.

The renders don't help, of course, because there's simply no way to avoid sounding like a complete sexist if you say "If you'd just keep your mouth shut you'd be okay."
 
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Well, hate might be a strong word, but I very actively dislike the goblin, and not just because of her goblinoid features.
And that covers a good part of it.

My MC tells her, repeatedly, to stay the fuck out of his biz, and she keeps sticking her nose in and making shit worse. She is exactly like a religious fundamentalist who believes she knows what's best for everyone, regardless of their wishes.

The renders don't help, of course, because there's simply no way to avoid sounding like a complete sexist if you say "If you'd just keep your mouth shut you'd be okay."
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If we had the option to tell Jill to stay out of the Tybalt situation (and even the Chad situation), I would. Her getting involved without being asked was really annoying and presented her in a bad light. :cautious:

The bitch deserves to see Bella riding my MC on her kitchen table. :Kappa:
 
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Sasanid said:
I know that most probably wasn't your intention, but I guess you woke the few of them with that post :LOL:

(even if I suppose they won't say anything)

Jill is kind and caring, but living in perfect bubble built by the people around her, who could turn rebellious if she wants to follow her sister's footsteps. Her perfect ideals decides for her, very naive, too naive. And jealous.

Maya is the traumatized children, imprisoned inside herself because of her crazy father, who's scared to be hurt but hurt others in return, yearns to be free. Pushed herself in the arms of a girl cause she's scared of men.

Josy is the carefree one riddled with undecisiveness and anxiety because she don't want to hurt anybody, hurting herself in the process. Loves the MC, but 'stays in the background', let people decide for her.

Sage, radiant queen, bubbly personality, doesn't know how to deal with her emotions, results in impulsive/explosive reactions. Oblivious to way too much things around her... but she's the only one Quinn is scared of, so there's that.

Bella... tortured soul, mysterious type, bombshell, older woman, strong morals, but mentally unstable for seemingly obvious reasons (married, cheating) and some hidden ones. Major red flags to me, but her mystery, damn...

The mystery of Bella, I understand how nobody dislikes her, everyone wants to try to solve it. And she's pretty much Neutral, so it helps. And the bubbly, easygoing Sage, seriously, how can anyone dislike her, beside the fact she has to fucking wake up about the HOTs. She's a DIK choice, but I could get a date with her as a Massive Chick, so yeah.

Maya/Josy, as long as they'll stay in this forced throuple, they'll get dislikes. When choices will be made available (solo paths, and a real throuple choice), things will change, especially for Maya, I hope, only reason she's disliked to me is because Josy is stuck with her, and vice versa. Also, while Josy really is carefree, Neutral DIK to Chick, Maya really is a Chick, doesn't help.

Jill ? I don't get the hate. But I can understand why people would dislike the trope. Very niche. Haters are vocal, fans stay quiet because they're mocked, so yeah, but there are many. Only pure chick playthrough, capricious, doesn't help.

DPC knows about the opinions on the girls, of course, Maya being the least liked (which isn't good), Jill the most polarizing (which is good), I'm sure changes are incoming.

(got a bit overboard with my comment, but was inspired this morning, so yeah)
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This is a very good feature. I love long posts, and I have a similar one with descriptions of all LIs, where I described them in detail from the positive and negative sides. The post got lost somewhere in the depths of the thread.
Bella is a very interesting and mysterious woman, I have no negative feelings towards her. I don't see her as a love interest, I've never been a MILF fan, I love younger girls. And I can’t imagine how such relationships can work, they have a huge cultural gap. Tremolo is a 19 year old boy with all the "features" of a youth personality. Bella is an adult, accomplished woman. These relationships seem strange. I see her as the mother that MC never had.
I did make a save with Bella for Season 3, though. She's a mystery worth solving.
So is Isabella Roberts. It's time to find out who you are.

P.S. I hid in my text a couple of Easter eggs for another iconic cultural works. I wonder if anyone can figure them out
DarkKiller said:
As a Bella simp I'd welcome Bella hate, it's a game ffs, talking shit is fun, especially when the waiting times between episodes are so long. But alas, so far, I guess only Jill and Maya have been deserving of 10 straight pages of shitposting in this thread :Kappa:
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In my opinion, Maya does not deserve so much negativity. No one would want to be in her situation. This is a path to potential suicide if things go wrong.
 
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Geralt_From_Rivia said:
This is a very good feature. I love long posts, and I have a similar one with descriptions of all LIs, where I described them in detail from the positive and negative sides. The post got lost somewhere in the depths of the thread.
Bella is a very interesting and mysterious woman, I have no negative feelings towards her. I don't see her as a love interest, I've never been a MILF fan, I love younger girls. And I can’t imagine how such relationships can work, they have a huge cultural gap. Tremolo is a 19 year old boy with all the "features" of a youth personality. Bella is an adult, accomplished woman. These relationships seem strange. I see her as the mother that MC never had.
I did make a save with Bella for Season 3, though. She's a mystery worth solving.
So is Isabella Roberts. It's time to find out who you are.

P.S. I hid in my text a couple of Easter eggs for another iconic cultural works. I wonder if anyone can figure them out


In my opinion, Maya does not deserve so much negativity. No one would want to be in her situation. This is a path to potential suicide if things go wrong.
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Yeah, like an impossible fling with Bella, her being his teacher doesn't help at all either. She's very conflicted and feels young again, but an 18 years gap is something else at that age... my ex is 15 years older than I am, but at the time, I was 34 when I began my relationship with her, and she had a daughter 2 years younger than I was. Was kinda strange, and relationship ended after a year, but it never was because of our age gap. Still, I was 34, not 19, a world of differences.

As for the underlined, that's a worst case scenario I also envisioned since the beginning for her... well, another long post incoming in the near future :LOL:
 
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hakuna-matata said:
I believe you have to be a massive Dik
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Being a basic DIK seems enough for it:

Python: 
menu:
    "Tell a joke" if True:
        if dtype < 1:
            mc "What did the librarian say to the student?"
            scene d1_isa2 with dissolve

            isa "Shhh!"
            scene d1_isa1 with dissolve
            mc "Oh, so you've heard that one already?"
            isa "..."
            mc "Sorry..."
            mc "I'm really here to apply for a library card."
        elif True:
            $ RPisabella -= 1
            mc "Hey Isabella! Are you a book? Because I would like to check you out."
            scene d1_isa3 with dissolve
            $ renpy.pause()
            jump d1_thrown_out
    "Ask about library card" if True:
        mc "I would like to apply for a library card."
dtype 0 means neutral, so the less questionable joke should fire for neutral or CHICK protagonist.
 
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