Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Give me liberty or give me death
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was KEEP (no consensus). TigerShark 11:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See What Wikipedia Is Not. It states "While there is a continuing debate about the encyclopedic merits of several classes of entries, current consensus is that Wikipedia articles are not...[l]ists or repositories of loosely associated topics such as quotations...If you want to enter lists of quotations, put them into our sister project Wikiquote." The article is simply a quotation that would better fit at wikiquote.
- First off, this isn't a list of quotes, it's a single quote. But, with that said, I vote to transwiki to Wikiquote; however, I also vote to keep a summary of the speech and its importance at this name (on Wikipedia) with a link to the full speech at Wikiquote. -- Kicking222 02:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep an article on the speech and the impact of the quote, but dump the full text. youngamerican (talk) 02:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete There is less said here about the impact of the speech than is given in Patrick Henry. Transwiki to Wikiquote if you must, but delete it here. Ted 02:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Youngamerican Adambiswanger1 02:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Transwiki to Wikiquote or Wikibooks (if the whole speech is going in). Otherwise, the notable single line "Give me liberty or give me death" is more than covered in Patrick Henry. Agent 86 02:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- comment All I want is for that fifth grader doing his history report to get some information when he searches for "Give me liberty or give me death". Adambiswanger1 03:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I could go for a redirect to Patrick Henry to pick up Googlers. youngamerican (talk) 03:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or redirect very notable line, and I'm not even American (surprised?). CanadianCaesar Cæsar is turn’d to hear 03:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- For anyone doubting the value of a redirect, Four score and seven years ago exists. Either way it shouldn't be deleted. CanadianCaesar Cæsar is turn’d to hear 03:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, transwiki or redirect to Patrick Henry. This is primary source material. -- Kjkolb 03:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per above. --Coredesat 04:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as article about speech or redirect to Patrick Henry, but do not transwiki. If you do, use Wikisource, not Wikiquote. The text of the speech was first recorded in 1817, years after the fact, and even the most famous line may be apocryphal. Morgan Wick 04:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, but remove the speech itself from the article. MaxSem 05:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep (minus the full speech, of course) or redirect to Patrick Henry per above. BryanG(talk) 06:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep No reason to delete this. --Neverborn 06:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Patrick Henry and transwiki the quote. Kevin 07:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep article about speech, or Redir if consensus is found to delete. I have removed the text of the speech. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 08:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Mentioned in the article on Patrick Henry and already extant on Wikiquote, this article is superfluous. A redirect to Patrick Henry might be in order, if required. (aeropagitica) (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep article about speech, which is important enough for its own article. The fact that the quote itself may be apocryphal provides more fodder for an article. --JChap 15:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, worthwhile per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep a very relevant quote, an article on the speech would be worthwhile--Aldux 16:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect Not sure what's left after removing the speech that warrants its own entry and isn't better covered at Patrick Henry. ~ trialsanderrors 17:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete as per aeropagitica. Wikipedia is not Wikiquote... which is the whole point of Wikiquote Bwithh 22:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep per aldux MarineCorps 23:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Important speech should be covered by every general reference work, including wikipedia. --JJay 00:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per aeropagitica. Give me something. --Starionwolf 00:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per aeropagitica and Bwithh. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep but redirect to Patrick Henry, and transwiki text to Wikisource --mtz206 (talk) 21:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Patrick Henry. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.